SR4L Official BT20 league announcement + Racing Calendar

[myself9]

The negotiations were hard, but I would even agree for an icecream

I'll, get that shipped today!

[Christopher Snow]

Just saw a thread over at 397 which mentioned this series, and I definitely want in (so please pencil a spot for me). Have a couple of possible teammates in mind too, and will get right on negotiations...and will also let my current AC/Lotus 25 group know over at cmsracing.com (but only after I skim the rising cream for possible drivers. ) --I think one or more from there might be interested too, even as another team.

First query: My own assigned number over at CMS is "917", and I would ask for that here too...as long as you guys don't mind seeing triple digits on skins. If you prefer we stick to two digits, we'll go with something else instead (and I won't pin it down further until I attempt to sign a teammate to a contract).

Second question: Are two man teams preferred or would three of us be allowed?

Third (and last for now) question: Can I safely assume "British Time"=UTC +/- 0:00? I'm going to have to know that for sure before trying to sign any foreign talent. :-P

Sounds like great fun, and the historic tracks should rock.

[1959nikos]

Just saw a thread over at 397 which mentioned this series, and I definitely want in (so please pencil a spot for me). Have a couple of possible teammates in mind too, and will get right on negotiations...and will also let my current AC/Lotus 25 group know over at cmsracing.com (but only after I skim the rising cream for possible drivers. ) --I think one or more from there might be interested too, even as another team.

First query: My own assigned number over at CMS is "917", and I would ask for that here too...as long as you guys don't mind seeing triple digits on skins. If you prefer we stick to two digits, we'll go with something else instead (and I won't pin it down further until I attempt to sign a teammate to a contract).

Second question: Are two man teams preferred or would three of us be allowed?




Third (and last for now) question: Can I safely assume "British Time"=UTC +/- 0:00? I'm going to have to know that for sure before trying to sign any foreign talent. :-P

Sounds like great fun, and the historic tracks should rock.

Hello Christopher and welcome.

Please take a minute to right some about you for us at
http://www.simracers4life.com/index.php?board=2.0

3 digit is a bit out of historic formula 1, but thats just my personal view.

3 person team is definately unfair for the other teams me thinks.

A rule to be sure about racing time, its always at 20:00 London time.

I said 22:00 but that is the time here in Greece

[Mauro]

from open post:

Rules:
Every event will consist of:
-120 minute practice session starting 17:45 British time
-10 minute - single lap attempt - qualifying session starting 19:45 British time
-7 minute warmup
-Race 1 - XX laps (aprox 30 minutes)
-7 minute warmup
-Race 2 - XX laps (aprox 30 minutes)

so... race1 start at 20:00 british time, is it correct?

[1959nikos]

from open post:

Rules:
Every event will consist of:
-120 minute practice session starting 17:45 British time
-10 minute - single lap attempt - qualifying session starting 19:45 British time
-7 minute warmup
-Race 1 - XX laps (aprox 30 minutes)
-7 minute warmup
-Race 2 - XX laps (aprox 30 minutes)

so... race1 start at 20:00 british time, is it correct?

Yes, my fault, always 20:00 British time, Winter or Summer.

[Bruce]

I used to have a list of all the driver numbers used in '67 (I know the Brabham is '66 but I think the numbering used was similar), and I can't remember there being any 3 digit numbers, but then drivers did not use the same number throughout the season.

As for numbers in teams, they varied. Brabham the winners (both driver and manufacturer) had 3. Many small teams had 1 (McLaren among them). of the others, Cooper had 5, Lotus and Ferrari 4, Anglo American Racing (Eagle) 3, and Owen Racing Org. (BRM), Reg Parnell Racing and Team Chamaco Collect 2. All that said only 6 drivers raced in all events, with at least one driver changing teams.

[sdancourt]

Brahbam won the championship title in 1966 with the BT19 model and in 1967 with the BT20.

BT20 chassis and suspension were different from BT19, yet an evolution too.

So BT20 is a real 1967 car.

[gorgias1976]

As an explanation.
British Summer Timer (BST) is the same as UTC from the last sunday of October to the last sunday of March.
From the last sunday of March to the last sunday of October many countries in the world start Daylight Saving Time. Then BST becomes UTC + 1

As always race announcements will include time schedules in BST-CET (Central European Time) and GMT (same as UTC)

[cookie]

Brahbam won the championship title in 1966 with the BT19 model and in 1967 with the BT20.

BT20 chassis and suspension were different from BT19, yet an evolution too.

So BT20 is a real 1967 car.

thats not correct - the bt24 was the 67 car that took all the points to win drivers and constructors - 3 wins to the lotus 49 4 wins -in 67 -but they had way more finishes in the points - hulme won with it that year - bt 20 is a 66 car - bt 24 premiered in 67 with the new repco engine - the gpl car is a bt24

[Hedlund]

Nice to see the server and site back up and running and also a new season announcement. Even if I can't participate like I used to, I check in sometimes to see what's going on here.

You can count me in as some kind of wild card. I will show up if possible. Problem is that I really have to go to bed by the time the race starts.. So I'll show up if I ever get a free Monday or maaaybe I could do only Race 1 sometime. We'll see

[1959nikos]

Nice to see the server and site back up and running and also a new season announcement. Even if I can't participate like I used to, I check in sometimes to see what's going on here.

You can count me in as some kind of wild card. I will show up if possible. Problem is that I really have to go to bed by the time the race starts.. So I'll show up if I ever get a free Monday or maaaybe I could do only Race 1 sometime. We'll see

Come whenever you feel like it Rikard, you know youre always welcome here

[Bruce]

Brahbam won the championship title in 1966 with the BT19 model and in 1967 with the BT20.

BT20 chassis and suspension were different from BT19, yet an evolution too.

So BT20 is a real 1967 car.

thats not correct - the bt24 was the 67 car that took all the points to win drivers and constructors - 3 wins to the lotus 49 4 wins -in 67 -but they had way more finishes in the points - hulme won with it that year - bt 20 is a 66 car - bt 24 premiered in 67 with the new repco engine - the gpl car is a bt24

I concur. Back in the day I spent many an hour with a hex editor modifying the GPL Brabham, so did a bit on research on it.

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This though is from Wikipedia, The BT19 (to superseed the BT11) was designed in 1965 for the 1.5 Formula (but never raced). When the FIA increased the engine capacity limit to 3 litres the manufacturers where caught napping and nobody had a proper 3 litre car ready (in fact as late as Monaco '67 Lotus used a 2 litre engine in the Lotus 33, as the brutish Lotus 43 was not suitable around the streets. Also at least a couple of BT 11s where used with bigger engines in 1967 and Al Pease drove Gurney's 1966 Eagle in 1967, which had an overbored Climax engine), Repco had a suitable engine which was fitted to the BT19. Only one was made, and was the first car bearing the driver's name to win a champianship race.

The BT20 Was a proper 3 litre car built in 1966 and did race in the a few races in 67, Jack had the first BT24 so Denny had to use the BT20 untill his was ready. In fact he won in Monaco in it.

The BT24 was developed from an F2 car, the same concept as the BT19; put a great big reliable motor in a small light car. A concept still used today with the Rover V8 in lightweight sports cars. Interestingly the Repco and Rover V8 engines are both based on the same Aluminium Buick V8. http://www.motoringweekly.com.au/2017/10...-repco-v8/

[gorgias1976]

Does that mean we must race same as 1966? 10 km Brianza? ;D

[sdancourt]

Lets be a bit flexible. The BT 20 was a 1966-1967 car and the Italian GP was raced on the short track.

[Bruce]

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Does that mean we must race same as 1966? 10 km Brianza? ;D

The last time it was used in a F1 GP was 1961. It was used in the film Grand Prix which was filmed during the 1966 season, that why the characters in the film had names and helmets based on real drivers (the idea was they could use footage of the real races). Such as Pete Aren had Chris Amon's helmet, the Ferrari Drivers was quite interesting, if you study the film. Nino Barlini had Lorenzo Bandini's, But Jean Piere Sarti started the season wearing John Surtees's helmet and finished it wearing Mike Parks's, because Surtees had an argument with Enzo and left for Cooper, and he was replaced by Parks. Also if you check out the film where the cars are on the banking they are all F2 cars (James Garner was realy driving one).

[gorgias1976]

Ouch, due to the Grand Prix movie I thought the 1966 season raced the 10km version of Brianza.

[1959nikos]

10K was not available for F1 after Von Trips horrible crash in 1961. Only long distance events with Sports Cars were held for a few years, till it was closed forever and decayed.

[gorgias1976]

Interesting.

[gorgias1976]

We need to set this week's fun event with the Caterhams.
Let's have Portugal, a track we haven't raced since we did the modern Formula 2.

Paul, if you can set a server having both of them, please. I'll try to work on the announcement today or tomorrow.

Track link:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f...=922033988

[Bruce]

Ouch, due to the Grand Prix movie I thought the 1966 season raced the 10km version of Brianza.

Lots of people do, but as Nikos pointed out the F1s finished after Von Trips' crash and the Sports cars finished in 1969 after another horrific crash.