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Hi all!
My report:
qualy: I did a 1 26 something, my PB but I was not sure whether this was a good thing.... well, it wasn't ???
first race:
I slowed down seeing some cars spinning in front of me and got hit right after the start.
I was able to reach turn 1 with suspension damage in the 4 wheels and was too optimistic on the exit, lost the line, went into the grass and crashed into a tree trying to return to the track.
The car didn't response to my inputs, why? 
I lost a wheel in the crash but was able to reach the pits, 305 seconds to repair, the engine overheated and caught fire exiting the pits...end of lap 1, end of race 1.
second race:
A couple of cars flashing and moving from side to side in front of me, made me slow down right after the green flag.
I was hit again, suspension damage again, the car did not respond properly to my inputs again  but this time I reached the pits with four wheels.
After that I was able to complete 18 laps and that's good for me, It could have been better though
NOTE: In the back straight, in the first lap of second race, after the hit, I was not able to make the car go straight, so I was not able to keep it out of the racing line that was why I was so slow and probably was also the reason why I was hit again before last turn. Sorry about that.
Cheers.
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troffeo Wrote:Race 1
Got a good start , I went from the inside slowly and at the end of straight i saw well the smoke from crashes, so i manage to pass all that car from inside (grass). Almost did it when got a very strong hit directly to my rear end and my car starts flight. I saw the video (when all others run the race 1) and at least one drive come into the clear chaos with full throttle. For my opinion this is unacceptable!!! Jesus Rodriguez Wrote:first race:
I slowed down seeing some cars spinning in front of me and got hit right after the start.
Exactly the same for me, after seeing many cars hitting in front of me at start, I hold back throttle trying to find a way to pass through, there was none.
I slowed more, waiting for the mess to clear, when I had a direct strong hit from behind, so strong that it sent me into the trees upside down.
I thing we MUST find a way to stop this, it really frustrates people losing their race from the start.
I really cant understand why this is happening.
When I see crash in front of me I slow down, its better to loose some time than the race.
I cant understand why other people dont see it that way.
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Jesus Rodriguez Wrote:second race:
A couple of cars flashing and moving from side to side in front of me, made me slow down right after the green flag.
I was hit again, suspension damage again, the car did not respond properly to my inputs again but this time I reached the pits with four wheels.
After that I was able to complete 18 laps and that's good for me, It could have been better though 
Sorry about race two J, you braked quite early and I didn't pick it. My fault.
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Q: Went extraordinary well, was pushing the car really hard and managed to get a 1:25,9xx which qualified me 7th on the grid.
R1: Tiny lag at start so two drivers behind me caught up, went literally wheel to wheel with Bryan which pushed him to the side but he managed to control and returned back to the fight. Collision happened up front which caused the massive crash to the mid/back field. I watched the replay and there's no one to blame really. Bad luck and the high ping combined was enough to cause disaster.
I'm also giving my apologies for joining the voting that occured after, I should've known better; there are no restarts. Went to the pits with my three-wheeler to repair but forgot to turn off the engine which died after 5 minutes.
R2: Horrible lag at start. Couldn't decide to start at the sound or the official waving the flag. Wasn't the only one but I went 4th to 7thth quite rapidly during that lag. Overtook one car in the first lap and in the second lap I was getting the pace back and gained more places. Eventually I was 3rd for a while but Marcel was catching up quick. Was able to defend a couple of corners had to give way eventually. Finished 4th.
Nice picture Marcel
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DJCruicky Wrote:Que the Benny Hill music .
LOL
Something to be aware of people , if your in the pits already being repaired and you get hit , new damage will occur ,this will NOT be repaired , you will have to do another pitstop
Understeer - is when you hit the wall with the front of the car
Oversteer - is when you hit the wall with the back of the car
Horsepower - is how fast you hit the wall
Torque - is how far you move the wall when you hit it
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@Nikos, I think to find a way is very difficult, these cars have the braking distance of a train.
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First of all I'm sorry about last night race 1.
Race 1 T1 was a disaster, almost half the field was involved in the accident but not taken out completely. 9 drivers Pitted on lap one, 6 drivers DNF and 10 of the 22 finished the race. The lag came as a surprise to all of us as the server was running fine up to that point. You will rarely see a restart, it would have to be a catastrophic failure. As pointed out I did say only for technical issues and I'm going to have to define what those reasons are exactly and will do so. Mass crashes will not be one of those reasons although I understand the frustration. Lag is an issue we need to pick up on earlier then after the fact.
Personally for me it's a kick in the guts. I really want SR4L to have a level of professionalism and this was far from it. We'll sort the issues out and come back bigger and better.
No action will be taken against those voting, chatting in race one but please all learn from this. I'm writing it off as an experience for all involved. Scream after the race not during
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DJCruicky Wrote:@Nikos, I think to find a way is very difficult, these cars have the braking distance of a train.
I dont accept this, I almost always manage not to hit people, but I get hit at starts repeatedly.
Im seriously considering starting race from last place, I will have much better chances of finishing a race that way.
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Fergy Wrote:First of all I'm sorry about last night race 1.
The lag came as a surprise to all of us as the server was running fine up to that point. Personally for me it's a kick in the guts. Regards,
Fergy
You couldnt expect this lag, we didnt have any last week, while we had many times a big field.
All in all you SR4L did a great job yesterday, especially getting the server up at such a short time after it went down just before the start.
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Fergy Wrote:First of all I'm sorry about last night race 1.
Race 1 T1 was a disaster, almost half the field was involved in the accident but not taken out completely. 9 drivers Pitted on lap one, 6 drivers DNF and 10 of the 22 finished the race. The lag came as a surprise to all of us as the server was running fine up to that point. You will rarely see a restart, it would have to be a catastrophic failure. As pointed out I did say only for technical issues and I'm going to have to define what those reasons are exactly and will do so. Mass crashes will not be one of those reasons although I understand the frustration. Lag is an issue we need to pick up on earlier then after the fact.
Personally for me it's a kick in the guts. I really want SR4L to have a level of professionalism and this was far from it. We'll sort the issues out and come back bigger and better.
No action will be taken against those voting, chatting in race one but please all learn from this. I'm writing it off as an experience for all involved. Scream after the race not during 
Regards,
Fergy
Dont be hard on yourself , you and Paul did a great job recovering from the server crash , despite the issues, you presented us with a good nights racing .We as drivers have to accept RF2 is Beta and not perfect , we are here to find these bugs and let ISI know, who hopefully will then do something about them .
Despite the lag and the silly crashes i enjoyed myself , now i cant get the Benny Hill theme out of my mind (damn you DJ )
Understeer - is when you hit the wall with the front of the car
Oversteer - is when you hit the wall with the back of the car
Horsepower - is how fast you hit the wall
Torque - is how far you move the wall when you hit it
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deecee52 Wrote:now i cant get the Benny Hill theme out of my mind (damn you DJ )
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg[/youtube]
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here's a video of race1 start mayhem. I think it's just a combination of unlucky factors. I did a very good start but struggled for grip at the unrubbered right side of the road. David did not a good start but quickly had the grip from the rubbered line. That brought a difference in speeds that I think none of us expected and ended as it ended.
[YOUTUBE]oK5y7_bW3G0[/YOUTUBE]
At Race2 this is what I found at Lesmo1 at lap 5 or 6 resulting in losing the propper line at the difficult entry of this curve and therefore hitting the fence and damaging the car, losing all chances of winning.
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not sure why your using special effects atm, it's simply rubbish and cause unrealistic problems.
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Quote:Exactly the same for me, after seeing many cars hitting in front of me at start, I hold back throttle trying to find a way to pass through, there was none.
I slowed more, waiting for the mess to clear, when I had a direct strong hit from behind, so strong that it sent me into the trees upside down.
I thing we MUST find a way to stop this, it really frustrates people losing their race from the start.
I really cant understand why this is happening.
When I see crash in front of me I slow down, its better to loose some time than the race.
I cant understand why other people dont see it that way.
i hit someone pretty hard in the rear- might have been me Nikos......i could not stop....had all 4 wheels locked up in the effort tho'
this track is not the best example to start picking at peoples etiquette tho either...lag, .3 wide start, on a flat out straight, leading into the fastest curve in racing = recipe for disaster
not too many people start slow and try to complete a lap before getting all racy.....dont say i didnt warn you all- we need practice....
I was using minimal special effects previously, but turned it off because you cant see the corners through the smoke......but you can tell when there is an incident ahead by the cloud of smoke.....and i think i would have slowed sooner...i didnt know there was an incident until it was too late...
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cookie Wrote:not too many people start slow and try to complete a lap before getting all racy
You make it sound like I do.
FYI I start on the limit of my adhession, BUT, I keep my line in starts, I look whats ahead too.
At the incident I had nowhere to go, only thing to do was to slow down, I prayed that some hot blood wouldnt wreck me, but this is happening too often.
Quali is a waist of time this way AFAIAC.
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Hi F1 drivers,
I'd like to start by saying big thanks to my team mate.
Thanks to Bart, Our Divine Intervention team is on top of the championship after round 1!
That's wonderful, hope it stays that way :-)
Second, my 60s F1 driving skills really suck, and you could see it in both races yesterday.
I tried to respect all blue flags. Sometimes it's not easy to stay off the line (braking zone to Lesmo 1, for example) so in those cases I just tried to stay on the line and move out quickly when out of the turn.
Anyway, I made a lot of mistakes hitting guard rails and damaging my car. Especially in Race 2, I damaged my car and pitted for I think a total of 6-7 minutes if not more. All in all, R2 was not very good for me.
Race 1 was somewhat better, but I didn't manage to escape the mayhem, and was in
the pits already at lap 1, then I kept it somewhat sane, and got those few points home nicely.
Have to say I'm impressed with everyone's driving.
However, one thing I'm really curious about. How on earth it's 1.25 even possible on that track?
Even after a lot of practice, and trying to refine my setup, my PB is about 1:28.4.
There has to be a 60s F1 driving tutorial somewhere surely? :-)
I noticed that the part where I lose the most time is sector 2, from Lesmo 1 to the start of the back straight.
Looking ahead, while I knew the Brianza track quite well, this time Kyalami is totally unknown to me, so I've got to practice a lot.
We'll see. Looking forward to round 2.
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Yes I saw some eye raising blue flag use to be honest, guys passing slower guys and not lifting are risking two peoples races. It's real 50 50 passing. Give the guys being lapped a fair chance.
You can hold your line in a corner, a blue flag doesn't mean Get Out Of My Way Before I Kill You if you slow someone down than so be it, sure he'll be annoyed but that's his problem and not yours... or hers  Don't forget that
This is one of the best videos for improving your driving Cosimo. If you follow what Skip says about cornering you'll find a lot of time.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQRmYMlmdqM[/youtube]
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gorgias1976 Wrote:here's a video of race1 start mayhem. I think it's just a combination of unlucky factors. I did a very good start but struggled for grip at the unrubbered right side of the road. David did not a good start but quickly had the grip from the rubbered line. That brought a difference in speeds that I think none of us expected and ended as it ended.
[YOUTUBE]oK5y7_bW3G0[/YOUTUBE]
At Race2 this is what I found at Lesmo1 at lap 5 or 6 resulting in losing the propper line at the difficult entry of this curve and therefore hitting the fence and damaging the car, losing all chances of winning.
![[Image: e67hb9.jpg]](http://i41.tinypic.com/e67hb9.jpg)
Good to see the video as I cant record them and I'm sorry but it still proves your driving was unpredictable with erratic car control and weaving like that was an accident waiting to happen. The FIA would of had you for that in all honesty. I dont see how DJC could even take an inch of blame for that one.
Lets all keep in mind weaving cars causes accidents especially on the start. Lets hope we all learn a lesson from this video what not to do and now move no.
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Quote:You make it sound like I do.
you ok? >  i doubt very much anyone would consider you or i 'racy' ......i think we are both usually content to accept our fate behind other faster more racy 'hot bloods' :-*
- i hit you maybe....but i would not refer to me as a 'hot blood' - as i say- if it was me....all 4 wheels were locked in an attempt to slow the car down from about 170mph...little else could be done other than starting from the pits....which I strongly considered and now wish i had ???
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